Attack of the Ronulans

So, will Dr. Paul advocate secession in his victory speech?

Or has he put that (and the race-baiting, and the gay conspiracy theories, and the anti-semitism) behind him?

Should have included the source: http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=e2f15397-a3c7-4720-ac15-4532a7...

That link is to an article in The New Republic about his history of publishing that kind of stuff in his newsletters.

Which, I might add, Dr. Paul has never denied.

Walt really shows his ignorance. Dr. Paul DID deny writing the articles in the newletters but admits that he was neglectful in not keeping a closer on what material went in it under his name. The writers of those articles were identified and Dr. Paul dismissed them.

If one doesn't know the facts one is better off remaining silent and not looking the fool!

Also note that Nelson Linder, NAACP president in Texas has come out in support of Ron Paul against that negative attack:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvFLSwDvBUA

Ron Paul is a libertarian, and by definition believes in the individual god-given rights of all people. To call him a racist is ignorant, and completely backwards. No one can point to a single thing that Ron Paul has said in his 30 years of public service to the contrary.

You know folks, for decades the people of this country have been at the mercy of the establishment wings of both the Republican and Democratic Parties. Each party has taken their respective turns at the leadership role of this country and yet, both parties have done little to ensure the prosperity and happiness of the people of this once-great land. They present their respective candidates who are acceptable to their agendas and they spew out the same old empty promises they always make, promises that they either can’t keep or have no intention of keeping, but it gets them votes.

For years we have allowed these entrenchment politicians to embed themselves into the flesh of this nation like parasitic ticks, sucking the life blood from this country and its people. Every four years we go through the same process and usually we are given the same old choices which are no real choices at all, this time it is different and we have the chance to make a real decisive difference in the direction this country is being led. We have the chance to elect Ron Paul in 2008.

Ron Paul is one of the most knowledgeable and level headed men I have ever met. I am constantly amazed as I read his writings listen to his speeches and watch him on interviews; he is the definition of common sense and common sense is exactly what this country needs. His knowledge of economics, of history, of the Constitution, of foreign affairs is absolutely astounding and I have yet to see another candidate even come close to his abilities or his logic. All the other candidates spout out the same ole dribble, the same recycled tripe that they have spit out for years; they act as though their party is more important than the country and their party line more important than the Law of the Land: the Constitution. It is time to put America First, to put Americans First and Defend this Land, its Sovereignty, its Law and it’s Future.

Dr. Paul is the only candidate that even brings up the issue of our failing monetary system.

Consider this: a person making $32,000 per year today has the equivalent purchasing power of $5,907.40 1970 dollars. So, the same person making $15.38 per hour today is equal to making $2.84 per hour in real purchasing power in 1970 dollars. It is not the price of goods and services that have risen so much, but the purchasing power of our dollar that has been so drastically reduced. Our standard of living has been effectively reduced through fiat money inflation.

Is there any wonder that poverty is becoming rampant? The government has no other choice but enforce minimum wages in order to keep the working poor at some level of subsistence. At the current $5.85 per hour a person has the same 1970 purchasing power of $1.08 per hour, at 40 hours per week that person is effectively making $43.20 per week to make ends meet.

What are we waiting on, to become serfs of the State?

VOTE RON PAUL...STOP THE THIEF...STOP THE WASTE....STOP THE PARASITES

Jon Sander- read James Kirchick’s lastest blog where he fingers “Lee Rockwell” and how he “betrayed Ron Paul’s trust.

In the original “The Angry White Man” article, Kirchick singles out exactly FIVE racist quotes that spanned form 1990-1992 when Lee Rockwell was the Editor N’ Chief of the newsletters. Kirchick categorized his complaints into race, anti-Semitism, gay bashing, etc, and 4 of the 5 “racist” quotes were bashing MLK day.

Now Ron Paul voted against the “racist” Ronald Reagan in 1983 to approve a national MLK day and he said it was one of the two possible unconstitutional he has made in his life. He kept a clean journal from 1978-1990.

bHillary Clinton murdered Vince Foster.

Obama is an Islamofacist.

Romney wants to turn the US into a Mormon country.

Giuliani has sex with dead dolphins, and eats the souls of children.

McCain is a communist dupe who uses heroin.

Wheee...Slander is FUN!!

I'm a 'leftie'; an active socialist to be exact. And American, living overseas these last 19 years.

But....Ron Paul has more than a few supporters from my side, even though we differ with him on some basic issues.

You see - he's honest and open, and for the People. I can live with that rather easily. For many of his principles are our principles also.

You might be pleasantly surprised at those who support Paul. It's not the 'lefties' who oppose him, but the entrenched establishment.

I find it very interesting that a socialist would consider Ron Paul. Interesting because his positions are diametrically opposed to the philosophy of socialism. I have studied Socialism for years in comparitive studies and found one particular book by Ludwig Von Mises very informative on the subject, entitled Socialism. Another good one is Intellectuals and Socialism by F.A. Hayek.

I would be interested to know, if you have read them, what you think of the premise of those works.

Anyway, welcome to the Revolution. I agree with you, those who oppose Ron Paul are entrenchment parasites from both political parties and they have sucked the life-blood from this nation and its people. It is time to purge such parasites from our land.

Walt, please point me in the direction of references that might back -up what you say about Ron Paul and gays, Jews, blacks, etc. Specifically, something RON PAUL WROTE OR SAID, not things other people have written and said that you are pathetically attributing to Ron Paul.

How is Ron Paul an anti-Semite? Because he doesn't believe we should send any money to ANY foreign nation? How does that equate to anti-semitism, specifically? Or do you believe we should cease foreign aid for everyone except Israel? That would be kind of self-centered and unbalanced, wouldn't it? Aren't we supposed to remain un-entangled with free trade and travel with all nations, according to our founding father's wishes?

You are a shill. Now go back in that dark hole from whence you came.

This video should settle the argument.

"Ron Paul Goes to the Zoo"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTTAhveM_Hw

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I am so thankful that Ron Paul is running. It is nice to have a candidate to vote for. A candidate that believes in the Constitution, inherent value to our money, civil liberties, and limited government.

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MORE IMPORTANTLY, please vote in your primary and talk a friend or two into it. We must continue to grow momentum exponentially!!!

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Go Dr. Paul!!!!!!

Yes , facts , we should all keep those in mind

http://ronpaulracistquiz.blogspot.com/

I voted for Ron Paul in the Iowa Caucus, and I am long time democrat. I like Ron Paul and feel his honesty is what got my vote. I feel he doesn't get a fair shake from TV and newspapers in Iowa.

Of course I hope you stay peaceful! If not, you might bomb our economy back to the iron age!

(I was gonna do a William Jennings Bryan joke here, but I'm afraid it'd be over the top.)

Ron Paul has not denied the newsletters are real though so your "evidence" is worthless .They stand regardless . Now stop side-tracking and answer the questions..

http://ronpaulracistquiz.blogspot.com/

Be afraid of Ron Paul, Walturd has slithered out to warn the world of that egads! racist who wants to set non-violent black drug offenders free so they can return to their families and lives. Behold! Walturd is now telling us that the anti-war crowd might bomb our economy back to the iron age...oh that must be because the Neocons bombed it back to pre-stone age and its going to take a while for Ron Paul and his supporters to get things back on track. Walturd the omnipotent character assasinator - What will the public do when Walturd slithers back under the rock from whence he came?

It appears that you love the sewer more than actual facts. Ron Paul was not the author of the newsletters, period. If he were the author of such distasteful dribble it would have buried him politically long ago, would it not? Use your head.

Now, I am trying to find the article where the TRN writer James Kirchick states he lied in the article. If you recall, the New York Times ran the same article and then retracted it and apologized to Ron Paul and his supporters for publishing such a falsehood.

From what I know about racism they are so adamant about their separation from anyone of another race that they would never have them as friends. Dr. Paul has some very long-term and close friendships with people of several different races. Now, certainly that doesn't make sense, does it. Additionally, from the racist I have run into, especially in some parts of the country, they would never shake hands, much less kiss an African American person on the cheek. I have personally seen Dr. Paul kiss, hug, shake hands with African Americans, Hispanics and Asians. A "Racist"...nah, doesn't fit his words, his actions or his character and that has been proven time and time again over the last 3 decades.

Now, for a "racist" to sponsor a House Resolution Honoring an African American seems to be a contradiction, don't you think?

Here is what Ron Paul said concerning the 65th Birthday of Muhammad Ali.

"Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of H. Res. 58. I saw Muhammad Ali as a man of great courage, and I admired him for this, not because of the courage that it took to get in a ring and fight men bigger than he, but because of his stance in 1967.

In 1967, he was 25 years old. He was the heavyweight champion of the world, and for religious beliefs, he practiced what Martin Luther King made popular, civil disobedience, because he disagreed with the war. I thought his comments were rather astute at the time and were not complex, but he merely said, I have no quarrel with the Viet-Cong. He said the Viet-Cong never called him a name, and because of his religious convictions, he said he did not want to serve in the military. He stood firm, a man of principle, and I really admired this as a quality.

He is known, of course, for his athletic skills and his humanitarian concerns, and these are rightly mentioned in a resolution like this. But I do want to emphasize this because, to me, it was so important and had such impact, in reality, what Muhammad Ali did eventually led to getting rid of the draft, and yet we as a people and we as a Congress still do not have the conviction that Muhammad Ali had, because we still have the selective service; we say, let us not draft now, but when the conditions are right, we will bring back the draft and bring back those same problems that we had in the 1960s.

I see what Muhammad Ali did as being very great. He deserves this recognition, but we should also praise him for being a man of principle and willing to give up his title for 3 years at the age of 25 at the prime of his career. How many of us give up something to stand on principle? He was a man of principle. He believed it and he stood firm, so even those who may disagree with his position may say at least he stood up for what he believed in. He suffered the consequences and fortunately was eventually vindicated."

Sure Walt, that certainly sounds like a racist doesn't it? Of course I realize that they don't make a vaccine for ignorance Walt, but at the very least you should have the ability to look at the writings and speeches of Dr. Paul for the last 30 years or so and try as you might you cannot correlate the vast amount of his writings over the years with any trace of racism what-so-ever. If you are incapable of using the attributes of reason to deduct from his writings the character of the man himself, then I pity your incapacitation.

However, if you will honestly look at all the actual words of Dr. Paul, I dare say that, if you are honest with yourself, you will come away with the sound conclusion that this man cannot be a racist. Besides, it completely flys in the face of every principle of libertarianism. In other words Walt, it makes no sense to base your opinions upon sources such as TNR and James Kirchick, especially if you read other article by Kirchick and compare his character in such matters. Looking at Kirchick's character I would say that anyone who takes the word of such a man as fact must be of questionable character himself.

You should also ask yourself why, why does the establishment of both parties hate Ron Paul so much? The reason is that his message threatens the status quo that they must maintain in order to hold on to the reigns of power. Ron Paul is advocating the destruction of their golden goose and they simply can't afford to lose the goose that laid the golden egg.

I think you are wasting your energy and your intelligence on the continuation of your Smearbund against Dr. Paul. Don't you have something better to do?

It seems that you and Walt are the feeble SpinMeisters here. You base you opinions on highly questionable "evidence" and yet you ignore over 30 years of Dr. Pauls writings, actions and speeches that totaly contradict any possible accusation of racism of any type.

Now, take a look at the long public history of Ron Paul, he has NEVER dodged and issue or the truth about any issue even when the issue was not politically correct. He has never backed down from confronting any issue that he stood on. He has been plain spoken, he has shot straight on ever issue he brings up. Once again, your spin is contrary to logic and rational deduction based on the facts.

But by all means, keep spinning, keep the smearbund going because obviously thats all you have opinions on.

Walt asserts that newsletters bearing Ron Paul's name published some rascist and gay-bashing items. David replies "Dr. Paul DID deny writing the articles in the newletters but admits that he was neglectful in not keeping a closer on what material went in it under his name. The writers of those articles were identified and Dr. Paul dismissed them."

This is a presidential campaign. Anything remotely distasteful in a candidates past is bound to come up. The only way you can combat a smear is with a reasoned presentation of the facts.

But many of the commenters seem to feel that the way to combat a smear is with more smears in the form of divisive and ugly name-calling combined with outright denial of what David, and I believe Dr. Paul, acknowledges to be facts.

As a former Goldwater republican, I like Dr. Paul a lot. I have a Ron Paul for President sign in my yard. But I don't have time for nasty fools, and I doubt he does.

Fine, because he never wrote any of it. Are you paying any attention at ALL?

how do you know he didn't write them? A Ron Paul supporter told you?

Don't you think that's a tiny bit naive? Or do you just not take this kind of thing seriously?

Personally, I'm deeply offended by that kind of language, so I want to get to the bottom of it. If it's true, then I'll know not to support him. If it's not, then I won't consider it as I make my decision.

What is so hard to understand about this? If Romney or Huckabee had written something like this (or it appeared in the "Romney News" in 1991) wouldn't you think it was important to look into?

Hey there all,
Walt, its fun to read this whole discourse on the false claims of Ron Paul being a racist, but its time to pull your head out of the sand and pay attention to what the others have been saying.
I must ask, are you a "9/11 truther"? Because following your lines of reasoning and checking out the links you've posted, makes me think that this is how your mind works. Lets throw 1000 false claims out into the open, and see if anyone can disprove them right now!! Your logic isn't just fuzzy, its woolly.
And what is the deal with you people? Do you love war and horrific imperialism? Do you like innocent people around the world being killed in droves to lace the pockets of the power hungry few?
Do you like working till June to fund these campaigns of horror with your hard earned tax dollars?
Please, get over yourself and look at the big picture.
I think there is enough evidence in his myriad of writings to prove once and for all that Ron Paul is no racist.

No - definitely not a 9/11 truther. Those people are batshit crazy. (Or stupid.)

Actually no, I didn't throw out a bunch of accusations. I read one very specific one in a highly reputable magazine and posted a link to it. I also shared my opinion about it.

It's not that outlandish really. Happens on the internets all the time.

Hey there all,
Walt, its fun to read this whole discourse on the false claims of Ron Paul being a racist, but its time to pull your head out of the sand and pay attention to what the others have been saying.
I must ask, are you a "9/11 truther"? Because following your lines of reasoning and checking out the links you've posted, makes me think that this is how your mind works. Lets throw 1000 false claims out into the open, and see if anyone can disprove them right now!! Your logic isn't just fuzzy, its woolly.
And what is the deal with you people? Do you love war and horrific imperialism? Do you like innocent people around the world being killed in droves to lace the pockets of the power hungry few?
Do you like working till June to fund these campaigns of horror with your hard earned tax dollars?
Please, get over yourself and look at the big picture.
I think there is enough evidence in his myriad of writings to prove once and for all that Ron Paul is no racist.